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	<title>Comments on: Since When Do the Good Guys Win?</title>
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	<description>Austin, Texas novelist Ruth Pennebaker, who&#039;s old enough to call herself &#34;fabulous,&#34; writes about family, politics, marriage, friendship, feminism, aging and whatever else occurs to her.  Her upcoming novel, Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakthrough, will be published by Berkley in January 2011.</description>
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		<title>By: JWP</title>
		<link>http://www.geezersisters.com/recreation/since-when-do-the-good-guys-win/comment-page-1#comment-5875</link>
		<dc:creator>JWP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comparing health care systems across country can be daunting.  Life expectancy in the UK is longer for men (about 1 year) and women (half a year) than the U.S.; 9.9% of the UK population dies before age 60 compared to 12.8% in the U.S.  Breast cancer diagnosis rates are higher in the UK (26.1) than the U.S. (21.2), but overall death rates for cancer are much higher in the U.S. (321 in the US vs 253 in UK).
Perhaps the most telling statistic is how much each country spends on health care per year.  Right now, with no universal health care, the U.S. spends $4600 per person and the UK spends $1700 per person. This includes both both private and public sources.  In terms of percent of total GDP, the U.S. spends 15.4% of all its money on health care compared to the U.K.&#039;s 8.1%.

Right now, the U.S. is spending far more than any other country on health care and has very little to show for it compared to other countries. The Duchess is quite right about a hidden third factor -- social class.  Across people in virtually all countries, the more money you make the longer you will live.  This is true in the UK, Sweden, Sri Lanka, and the U.S.  In fact, professionals in the UK and US tend to be equally healthy and live the longest.  However, if you are in the bottom 20 percent of the population, you are far worse off in the US than the UK.

What this means is that the US system works just fine for at least half of the population -- even though it is far more expensive than it is all other countries on Earth.  If you are poor, you will get far worse health care but the taxpayer will still pay top dollar to get it.

I find it breathtaking that the American people don&#039;t put more pressure on both Republicans and Democrats to come up with a sane solution.  You would think that this is one area where both the compassionate and greedy would have a common concern.

If you are interested in seeing more depressing statistics, check out:
http://www.nationmaster.com/index.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing health care systems across country can be daunting.  Life expectancy in the UK is longer for men (about 1 year) and women (half a year) than the U.S.; 9.9% of the UK population dies before age 60 compared to 12.8% in the U.S.  Breast cancer diagnosis rates are higher in the UK (26.1) than the U.S. (21.2), but overall death rates for cancer are much higher in the U.S. (321 in the US vs 253 in UK).<br />
Perhaps the most telling statistic is how much each country spends on health care per year.  Right now, with no universal health care, the U.S. spends $4600 per person and the UK spends $1700 per person. This includes both both private and public sources.  In terms of percent of total GDP, the U.S. spends 15.4% of all its money on health care compared to the U.K.&#8217;s 8.1%.</p>
<p>Right now, the U.S. is spending far more than any other country on health care and has very little to show for it compared to other countries. The Duchess is quite right about a hidden third factor &#8212; social class.  Across people in virtually all countries, the more money you make the longer you will live.  This is true in the UK, Sweden, Sri Lanka, and the U.S.  In fact, professionals in the UK and US tend to be equally healthy and live the longest.  However, if you are in the bottom 20 percent of the population, you are far worse off in the US than the UK.</p>
<p>What this means is that the US system works just fine for at least half of the population &#8212; even though it is far more expensive than it is all other countries on Earth.  If you are poor, you will get far worse health care but the taxpayer will still pay top dollar to get it.</p>
<p>I find it breathtaking that the American people don&#8217;t put more pressure on both Republicans and Democrats to come up with a sane solution.  You would think that this is one area where both the compassionate and greedy would have a common concern.</p>
<p>If you are interested in seeing more depressing statistics, check out:<br />
<a href="http://www.nationmaster.com/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationmaster.com/index.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Duchess</title>
		<link>http://www.geezersisters.com/recreation/since-when-do-the-good-guys-win/comment-page-1#comment-5834</link>
		<dc:creator>Duchess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, yes, I do pay more taxes than you do, probably quite a lot more...  And we do have a health care system that I think is more fair - more humane - than yours;  families are never crippled by health debts.   There is some difference between the rich and the poor -- inevitably some people know how to work the system better than others - but it isn&#039;t like in the US.

The thing I keep banging on about, however, is that when everyone gets basic healthcare, unless you pay a whole LOT  more, no one gets the Rolls Royce health care insured Americans expect.  My health care isn&#039;t the health care you get, and I am pretty sure you would find it unacceptable.  Actually I am not sure you would be alive on it.  A 2008 study (reported by the BBC) said that the US had the highest 5 year survival rate for breast cancer at 83.9%.  compared to the UK at 69.7%.   That&#039;s a pretty big difference and a lot of dead women. 

If you are an uninsured American you definitely prefer my system.  If you are insured, your system is clearly preferable, especially if you plan on getting most common types of cancer.

If you have a social conscious probably you are willing to give up some of your goodies to those less well off -- unless, of course, your illness is potentially curable, but very expensive.  Then it might be every man for himself.   And what if you only suspect you might have such an illness.  Believe me it is hard work getting diagnosed on this side of the Atlantic.

Here&#039;s the reference.  It does refer to data from the 90s.  The UK has got better absolutely, if you discover a lump in your breast you are now supposed to be seen in two weeks, but I am not sure it is better relatively.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7510121.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7510121.stm&lt;/a&gt;

It&#039;s not that I am opposed to universal health care!  I am definitely in favour of it.  I just think most people are not ready to face the hard choices and the hard facts.   

Sorry!  I have used your comment box again to ride my hobby horse. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yes, I do pay more taxes than you do, probably quite a lot more&#8230;  And we do have a health care system that I think is more fair &#8211; more humane &#8211; than yours;  families are never crippled by health debts.   There is some difference between the rich and the poor &#8212; inevitably some people know how to work the system better than others &#8211; but it isn&#8217;t like in the US.</p>
<p>The thing I keep banging on about, however, is that when everyone gets basic healthcare, unless you pay a whole LOT  more, no one gets the Rolls Royce health care insured Americans expect.  My health care isn&#8217;t the health care you get, and I am pretty sure you would find it unacceptable.  Actually I am not sure you would be alive on it.  A 2008 study (reported by the BBC) said that the US had the highest 5 year survival rate for breast cancer at 83.9%.  compared to the UK at 69.7%.   That&#8217;s a pretty big difference and a lot of dead women. </p>
<p>If you are an uninsured American you definitely prefer my system.  If you are insured, your system is clearly preferable, especially if you plan on getting most common types of cancer.</p>
<p>If you have a social conscious probably you are willing to give up some of your goodies to those less well off &#8212; unless, of course, your illness is potentially curable, but very expensive.  Then it might be every man for himself.   And what if you only suspect you might have such an illness.  Believe me it is hard work getting diagnosed on this side of the Atlantic.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the reference.  It does refer to data from the 90s.  The UK has got better absolutely, if you discover a lump in your breast you are now supposed to be seen in two weeks, but I am not sure it is better relatively.  <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7510121.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7510121.stm</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that I am opposed to universal health care!  I am definitely in favour of it.  I just think most people are not ready to face the hard choices and the hard facts.   </p>
<p>Sorry!  I have used your comment box again to ride my hobby horse. </p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Margulis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Margulis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fun. i think doing the taxes in front of the superbowl was a brilliant idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fun. i think doing the taxes in front of the superbowl was a brilliant idea!</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen J. Gough</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristen J. Gough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m knee deep in tax forms too! I didn&#039;t think of doing them during the Superbowl. Frankly, for me it takes a lot of concentration (and TurboTax) to get it right--even if I have kept track of ever single potential deduction very carefully all year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m knee deep in tax forms too! I didn&#8217;t think of doing them during the Superbowl. Frankly, for me it takes a lot of concentration (and TurboTax) to get it right&#8211;even if I have kept track of ever single potential deduction very carefully all year.</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the metaphorical symbolism of this post. You are too funny. You know what? I think watching the two of you do your tax prep  would be far superior to watching the Super Bowl! I hope April 15 treats you well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the metaphorical symbolism of this post. You are too funny. You know what? I think watching the two of you do your tax prep  would be far superior to watching the Super Bowl! I hope April 15 treats you well!</p>
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		<title>By: Roxanne @ Champion of My Heart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roxanne @ Champion of My Heart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Texas Deb makes a good point. I&#039;d also add that people who want to marry should also A) ride a tandem bicycle and B) paddle a two-seat kayak ... if they do either of those things for an hour or two without causing bodily harm and/or shouting vicious things, then maybe, just maybe, they are well matched for marriage.
As for the Super Bowl, we do not watch sports much at our house. Thankfully, I married one of few (it seems) American men who hate most spectator sports.
But the snows ruined our alternative plans, so we watched. And, if I was only going to watch one game all year, I&#039;m glad I got to see the Saints win.
Plus a friend dubbed me an honorary member of the Who Dat Nation for liking and using the phrase &quot;fiya-wata.&quot; So, I guess they&#039;re my pseudo home team.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Texas Deb makes a good point. I&#8217;d also add that people who want to marry should also A) ride a tandem bicycle and B) paddle a two-seat kayak &#8230; if they do either of those things for an hour or two without causing bodily harm and/or shouting vicious things, then maybe, just maybe, they are well matched for marriage.<br />
As for the Super Bowl, we do not watch sports much at our house. Thankfully, I married one of few (it seems) American men who hate most spectator sports.<br />
But the snows ruined our alternative plans, so we watched. And, if I was only going to watch one game all year, I&#8217;m glad I got to see the Saints win.<br />
Plus a friend dubbed me an honorary member of the Who Dat Nation for liking and using the phrase &#8220;fiya-wata.&#8221; So, I guess they&#8217;re my pseudo home team.<br />
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		<title>By: sarah henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taxes and American football...two of my least favorite pastimes.
I&#039;m just amazed you got through both with marriage still intact. Onward...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taxes and American football&#8230;two of my least favorite pastimes.<br />
I&#8217;m just amazed you got through both with marriage still intact. Onward&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Frugal Kiwi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frugal Kiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Desperately trying to think of beignets at Cafe du Monde in the French Quarter instead of Marginal Tax Rates. Argh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desperately trying to think of beignets at Cafe du Monde in the French Quarter instead of Marginal Tax Rates. Argh!</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved the juxtaposition of the confetti with the blizzard of white papers.
I hate tax season, too, especially since we don&#039;t do it en couple: being the American, I get to sift through the American papers and my husband, being the Swede, gets to present me with a sheet listing his income with taxes, already deducted, from Sweden.  Then I tie it all up with a big red box and present the mess to the accountant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved the juxtaposition of the confetti with the blizzard of white papers.<br />
I hate tax season, too, especially since we don&#8217;t do it en couple: being the American, I get to sift through the American papers and my husband, being the Swede, gets to present me with a sheet listing his income with taxes, already deducted, from Sweden.  Then I tie it all up with a big red box and present the mess to the accountant.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Weibel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara Weibel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though I&#039;m no football fan, I watched the last half and found myself yelling gleeful things like  &quot;Woo hoo&quot; and &quot;Way to go!&quot; Just what is it about an underdog win that turns us into star-struck, blithering idiots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though I&#8217;m no football fan, I watched the last half and found myself yelling gleeful things like  &#8220;Woo hoo&#8221; and &#8220;Way to go!&#8221; Just what is it about an underdog win that turns us into star-struck, blithering idiots?</p>
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